Wednesday, September 24, 2008

Ultimate Mass

I was about to provide someone on the forum with a link to James McMurray's big ol' Scion mass chart, when I realized it had an error.

Epic Strength 1 gives +500 lbs lifting capacity. The 2nd and 3rd dots double that. The 4th to 7th dots Quintuple the bonus at each level. The 8th to 10th dots multiply the total of the previous dot by 10.

It would appear the chart at James's site (which I and formorach69 helped create) didn't take that last transition into account. The chart was made before any of us were playing God-level PCs, and may have been made before the God book was published (I don't remember). Whatever the timing, the chart seems to progress levels 8 through 10 at the same x5 multiplier of levels 4 to 7. As a result, it lists the Empire State Building as Mass 11, when it's actually Mass 10. Military Tugboats should be adjusted to Mass 8. The entries for Loaded Freighter, Cruiser, and Large Bridge should all be downgraded to Mass 9.

I'm gonna try to contact James McMurray and get it fixed. He's not currently active on the Scion forum, so I might not be able to get it changed. Update: I got in touch with him, and he updated/fixed the page linked above.

1 comment:

r_b_bergstrom said...

It occurs to me that I should put the data from that chart on this blog somewhere, just so I can access it should James' site go away. Here's the chart (sans formatting, but with the corrections to the Min Epic Str column)

Object Min. Epic Strength LBs KG US Tons (2,000 lbs.) UK Tons (2,240 lbs.) Metric Tons (1,000kg)
Manhole Cover 0 200.00 90.72 0.10 0.09 0.09
Sports Motorcycle 0 400.00 181.44 0.20 0.18 0.18
Piano 0 400.00 181.44 0.20 0.18 0.18
Drum of Oil (Full) 0 400.00 181.44 0.20 0.18 0.18
Dumpster (empty) 0 500.00 226.80 0.25 0.22 0.23
Touring Motorcycle 0 800.00 362.87 0.40 0.36 0.36
Telephone Pole 0 1,000.00 453.59 0.50 0.45 0.45
Sailboat 0 1,300.00 589.67 0.65 0.58 0.59
U-haul trailer 1 1,800.00 816.47 0.90 0.80 0.82
Medium Missile 2 2,600.00 1,179.34 1.30 1.16 1.18
20' Propane Tank (empty) 4 3,400.00 1,542.21 1.70 1.52 1.54
Dumpster (full) 4 3,500.00 1,587.57 1.75 1.56 1.59
Car 4 3,500.00 1,587.57 1.75 1.56 1.59
Large Missile 4 3,500.00 1,587.57 1.75 1.56 1.59
Granite Monument 4 4,000.00 1,814.37 2.00 1.79 1.81
Small Forklift 4 5,000.00 2,267.96 2.50 2.23 2.27
Large Meteor 4 5,000.00 2,267.96 2.50 2.23 2.27
20' Metal Cargo Container (empty) 4 5,000.00 2,267.96 2.50 2.23 2.27
10' Jersey Barrier 4 6,000.00 2,721.55 3.00 2.68 2.72
Truck 4 7,000.00 3,175.15 3.50 3.13 3.18
Limo 4 7,000.00 3,175.15 3.50 3.13 3.18
40' Metal Cargo Container (empty) 4 9,000.00 4,082.33 4.50 4.02 4.08
Small Jet 5 14,000.00 6,350.29 7.00 6.25 6.35
Combat Helecopter 5 14,000.00 6,350.29 7.00 6.25 6.35
School Bus 5 14,000.00 6,350.29 7.00 6.25 6.35
Semi Trailer (empty) 5 14,000.00 6,350.29 7.00 6.25 6.35
Howitzer 5 16,000.00 7,257.48 8.00 7.14 7.26
Semi Tractor 5 19,000.00 8,618.26 9.50 8.48 8.62
20' Propane Tank (full) 5 19,400.00 8,799.69 9.70 8.66 8.80
Armoured Car 5 25,000.00 11,339.81 12.50 11.16 11.34
Jet Fighter 5 27,000.00 12,246.99 13.50 12.05 12.25
Subway Car 5 27,000.00 12,246.99 13.50 12.05 12.25
Motorhome RV 5 30,000.00 13,607.77 15.00 13.39 13.61
Mobile Home 5 40,000.00 18,143.69 20.00 17.86 18.14
Infantry Fighting Vehicle 6 55,000.00 24,947.58 27.50 24.55 24.95
20' Metal Cargo Container (full) 6 58,000.00 26,308.36 29.00 25.89 26.31
Railroad Boxcar (empty) 6 63,000.00 28,576.32 31.50 28.13 28.58
Semi Trailer (full) 6 75,000.00 34,019.43 37.50 33.48 34.02
40' Metal Cargo Container (full) 6 76,000.00 34,473.02 38.00 33.93 34.47
Bull Dozer 6 80,000.00 36,287.39 40.00 35.71 36.29
Fire Truck 6 80,000.00 36,287.39 40.00 35.71 36.29
Tank 6 110,000.00 49,895.16 55.00 49.11 49.90
125' Water Tower (empty) 6 156,000.00 70,760.41 78.00 69.64 70.76
Crane 6 160,000.00 72,574.78 80.00 71.43 72.57
Space Shuttle 6 220,000.00 99,790.32 110.00 98.21 99.79
200' Radio Tower 6 240,000.00 108,862.17 120.00 107.14 108.86
Locomotive Engine 6 250,000.00 113,398.09 125.00 111.61 113.40
Railroad Boxcar (full) 7 263,000.00 119,294.79 131.50 117.41 119.29
Typical Wooden House 7 300,000.00 136,077.71 150.00 133.93 136.08
Giant Mining dump-truck (empty) 7 360,000.00 163,293.25 180.00 160.71 163.29
Titan II Rocket 7 440,000.00 199,580.64 220.00 196.43 199.58
Large Plane 7 440,000.00 199,580.64 220.00 196.43 199.58
Statue of Liberty (without the base) 7 500,000.00 226,796.19 250.00 223.21 226.80
Large Brick House 7 600,000.00 272,155.42 300.00 267.86 272.16
Hydro-electric Generator 7 759,000.00 344,276.61 379.50 338.84 344.28
Trawler 7 880,000.00 399,161.29 440.00 392.86 399.16
Giant Mining dump-truck (full) 7 980,000.00 444,520.52 490.00 437.50 444.52
125' Water Tower (full) 7 1,156,000.00 524,352.78 578.00 516.07 524.35
Giant Crane 8 1,300,000.00 589,670.08 650.00 580.36 589.67
1000' Radio Tower 8 1,320,000.00 598,741.93 660.00 589.29 598.74
Giant Mining Excavator 8 1,600,000.00 725,747.79 800.00 714.29 725.75
Drilling Rig 8 1,760,000.00 798,322.57 880.00 785.71 798.32
Small Bridge 8 3,520,000.00 1,596,645.14 1,760.00 1,571.43 1,596.65
Military Tugboat 8 7,040,000.00 3,193,290.28 3,520.00 3,142.86 3,193.29
Eiffel Tower 9 14,000,000.00 6,350,293.18 7,000.00 6,250.00 6,350.29
Destroyer 9 14,080,000.00 6,386,580.57 7,040.00 6,285.71 6,386.58
Large Submarine 9 14,080,000.00 6,386,580.57 7,040.00 6,285.71 6,386.58
Freighter (unloaded) 9 27,500,000.00 12,473,790.18 13,750.00 12,276.79 12,473.79
Freighter (loaded) 9 55,000,000.00 24,947,580.35 27,500.00 24,553.57 24,947.58
Cruiser 9 55,000,000.00 24,947,580.35 27,500.00 24,553.57 24,947.58
Large Bridge 9 55,000,000.00 24,947,580.35 27,500.00 24,553.57 24,947.58
US Aircraft Carrier 10 194,000,000.00 87,996,919.78 97,000.00 86,607.14 87,996.92
Empire State Building 10 730,000,000.00 331,122,430.10 365,000.00 325,892.86 331,122.43
Planet Earth 1.19E+25 5.42E+24 5.97E+21 5.33E+21 5.42E+21


Per 5' Cubed Min. Epic Strength LBs KG US Tons (2,000 lbs.) UK Tons (2,240 lbs.) Metric Tons (1,000kg)
Wood 2 4,700.00 2.35 2.10 0.00
Water 3 8,000.00 4.00 3.57 0.00
Dirt 3 9,200.00 4.60 4.11 0.00
Concrete or Stone 5 18,500.00 9.25 8.26 0.00
Iron or Steel 6 60,000.00 30.00 26.79 0.00


Examples Min. Epic Strength LBs KG US Tons (2,000 lbs.) UK Tons (2,240 lbs.) Metric Tons (1,000kg)
Sidewalk (4ft x 4ft x 3in) 0 600.00 0.30 0.27 0.00
Bank Vault Door (Steel, 18" thick, 8x8x1.5) 1 3,600.00 1.80 1.61 0.00